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Alex Dulay



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PostSubject: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:18 pm

Kamusta mga co-forumers? Looks like everyone is busy.
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:45 pm

Sobra ka naman. Di naman patay. Nasa ICU pa lang. Very Happy

Seriously, madaming magaganap itong darating na 10 years. Ang future ng dyaryo for example, papuntang Printcasting na where for a small fee news is delivered sa mga mobile phones or iPads. Ang publishing and printing industry sa Europe and Northern America naapektuhan na. Sa Asia na lang talaga particularly India and China, medyo madaming readers. Pero advertisers....nawawala na rin kasi may internet na. Sa mga conventional printers flexo, screen and gravure malamang lalakas pa nga ang printing requirement.
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PostSubject: hello po   Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:34 pm

Good day po. i am a new member po, im not an owner of a printing company but i've been in the industry for 12 years. actually sa company i am the one na pinapadala nila sa mga general meetings specially sa PIAP. Sad to say nga po parang hindi na ganon kataas ang sales this days sa printing industry. Medyo ok pa nman pero unlike sa sales 5 years ago eh talgang bumaba...
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:41 pm

wag naman sana humina particularly ang book printing industry
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:26 pm

larrysison wrote:
Sobra ka naman. Di naman patay. Nasa ICU pa lang. Very Happy

Seriously, madaming magaganap itong darating na 10 years. Ang future ng dyaryo for example, papuntang Printcasting na where for a small fee news is delivered sa mga mobile phones or iPads. Ang publishing and printing industry sa Europe and Northern America naapektuhan na. Sa Asia na lang talaga particularly India and China, medyo madaming readers. Pero advertisers....nawawala na rin kasi may internet na. Sa mga conventional printers flexo, screen and gravure malamang lalakas pa nga ang printing requirement.

You're right sir. Some of my printer friends in the US and UK are closing shops, some are cutting working hours and staff...
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:06 pm

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wag naman sana humina particularly ang book printing industry

Naku baka madagdagan pa ang demand, 'di ba gusto nilang dagdagan ng grade 7 ang elementarya Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:55 pm

Alex Dulay wrote:
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wag naman sana humina particularly ang book printing industry

Naku baka madagdagan pa ang demand, 'di ba gusto nilang dagdagan ng grade 7 ang elementarya Very Happy

may nabasa ata akong news a couple of weeks ago, Department of Education will test in using I-pad type gadget to replace paper books... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:39 pm

patay nga po.... lalo na sa amin na nagu-umupisa pa lang. baka po may magustong mag rekumenda ng technician ng ryobi 480 kailangan ko po sana? im hoping na may makatulong sa akin dito sa forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:12 pm

Speaking of "patay"..sana mabuhay pa uli etong site natin medyo madalang na din ang mga posts.


Come to think of it guys...sa mga print exhibit natin dito sa Pilipinas halos nilalangaw na rin ang mga exhibit. Halos wala nang nagdidisplay ng mga offset machines from heidelberg and komori except yung mga small offset machines from india and china. Kadalasan mga digital machines na ang bida sa mga print exhibit dito and like canon, kodak(ideal mktg), konica minolta, etc.. The trend kasi is towards digital printing na. Buti na lang im into this type of printing na that deals mostly with check printing and other security printing products that deals with variable data printing. So most of the time i interact with these sales people na at hindi na sa mga offset machines but we still do have a lot of offset sheetfed/web machines.

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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:49 am

Good day po sa lahat... to be honest I am one of those who believe that offset printing is dying... sorry guys for being pessimist... I have reasons to believe so... why?... book printing will no longer in demand because may mga ebook na... newspaper mawawala na rin dahil sa internet at dahil mauubusan na tayo ng puno sa paggawa ng papel... label printing is towards flexo na rin dahil sa mas mura ang material at mas productive bukod doon sa yun ang requirements ng maraming end-users. I used to have my own printshop but after 11 years of operation I realized the market is not getting any better. So, I closed down and went abroad. And I told myself I will never go back to printing business again maliban lang kung flexo printing... yun lang po... sana di madiscourage ang nagsisimula pa lang Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:59 pm

When I went to Dubai a couple of months back to attend a seminar on cross-media publishing napag usapan nga kung saan patungo ang printing. Sa Pinas malamang mararamdaman talaga ng mga offset printers ang impact after 10 years. Sa diyaryo ganun din. Pero ang mga quick printers, flexo, gravure...buhay na buhay.
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:22 am

Agree ako diyan Sir Larry. And we don't have to wait for 10 years para maramdaman ang paghina ng offset printing sa Pinas dahil ngayon pa lang ramdam na. Siguro, it's safe to say na offset printing had reached its 100% potential. For the last 10 to 20 years wala halos innovation ang mga leading offset machine manufacturers. Samantalang ang digital printing ramdam mo ang advancement ng technology. How I wish mali ako sa observation ko dahil malaki ang impact nito sa atin.
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:44 pm

This forum looks like a ghost town already..

kamusta po sa lahat!?

BTW, Sir LarrySison;

..some primers/idea naman po regarding: quick printers, flexo, gravure

..pwede po ba ito i-adopt ng mga small printing business dito sa atin sa Pinas?

..mas maganda po siguro mapagusapan at mapagtuunan ng pansin and ganitong parte ng printing para sa mga nagbabalak mag aral nito.

Maraming salamat po!
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:18 am

Hi jedmaster,

Gusto ko sana sagutin tanong mo tungkol sa flexo and gravure printing kaso si Sir Larry ang tinatanong mo eh. Hehehe
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:21 am

Sir Larry,

Sasagutin ko na ba ito? Hahahaha Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:56 am

To start flexo or gravure printing business, larger investment is needed compared to offset. Learning curve is longer and resources are scarce.

Flexo and gravure clients require volume and printers are not competing on price unlike in offset.

There are few flexo and gravure printers but customers are steady multinational commercial consumers.

Offset printing is not fading out but short run digital prints are cheaper. It it is so, Heidelberg could have not dumped the Nexpress.
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:25 am

rempress wrote:
Sir Larry,

Sasagutin ko na ba ito? Hahahaha Laughing

Sir Romeo, sige po. Open naman po ang forum para sa lahat ng gustong mag share ng mga thoughts nila.
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PostSubject: Re: Ang tahimik... patay na yata talaga ang print media :-)   Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:59 pm

Mga katoto, napag utusan ako ngayon ng isang company, kung ano ang potensyal ng digital press dito sa atin. In-short, i am into research now. if you want, you can call me and we can talk and discuss other opportunity you would like to explore in digital press printing. to invest in millions of peso for digital press is a big decision, not to accept small runs, you lost opportunities also. Naglibotlibopt na ako kung sino ang may mga intalled digital press like FX,KM,OCE,Canon. click charges is a concern, but service is more critical. Pag mag iinvest ka ng 3M or 2M masakit. Gaya ng pinunutahan ko kahapon. ang specs ng printer is 20k-25k A4 per month. bakit hindi ma print ang 35 pcs na A3 na parepareho. 1.6Mil peso investment cant print a 35 pcs A3 consistently. I am not endorsing any brand. but I have some data that would help you decide if you want to go to digital press. Sa ngayon, I am working on how many pcs of lettersize or A4, before you would run it to offset, @ 80 gsm. you can pm you qoutation if you want confidentiality. or PM me for more details.

In addition po: pati mga controllers at CMS is included in my research.
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