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PostSubject: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:26 pm

Good day Sirs,

I would just like to ask if any of you knows a gadget to check colors?

My operators said about "meter" something but I can't find it.

Thank you. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:15 am

Maybe they are talking about densitometer.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:52 pm

Agree ako kay Rempress. The operator is talking about a densitometer, which is considered the basic measuring device of the offset pressman.

If you are planning to purchase a densitometer, you should be aware of the following:

1. You need a reflection densitometer, not a transmission densitometer. A reflection densitometer measures printed images; while a transmission densitometer is used to measure images on film.
2. You need a color reflection densitometer which can measure the the different cmyk color channels.
3. You need a densitometer that can measure both ink density and halftone screen percentages. Some old and low end densitometers will only measure density.
4. You have to be sure that the densitometer is calibrated.

It is important to have images in your print which the densitometer can read. For ink density readings, you need solid cmyk patches on the leading or trailing edge of the paper. For screen measurements, you need to have screen percentage patches for the densitometer to read. Without these patches to read, the densitometer is useless.

Hope this helps. sunny
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:19 pm

a spectrophotometer is another tool to check colors
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:45 am

larrysison wrote:
a spectrophotometer is another tool to check colors

That's right. As a matter of fact, the new high end desitometers even include some functions of the spectrophotometers. Examples are the X-Rite Spectrodensitometer and the Techkon SpectroDens.

By the way Larry, when are you coming home for vacation? Let's organize a Color Management Seminar. sunny
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:50 pm

presstech wrote:
larrysison wrote:
a spectrophotometer is another tool to check colors

That's right. As a matter of fact, the new high end desitometers even include some functions of the spectrophotometers. Examples are the X-Rite Spectrodensitometer and the Techkon SpectroDens.

Yup. Ganda nga pag two features in one device lang ang ginagamit. SpectroDens are usually offered with the basic densitometer features only. The same device can be upgraded to the Advanced model by purchasing a separate license para pwede sya ng L*a*b* readings.

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By the way Larry, when are you coming home for vacation? Let's organize a Color Management Seminar. sunny

Oh my. Sir, kababalik ko lang po dito sa KSA mga 7 hours ago. Sa Bacolod po ako ng Christmas and New Year. Hopefully, next time we could arrange it before my next vacation.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:51 pm

mastersinc wrote:
Good day Sirs,

I would just like to ask if any of you knows a gadget to check colors?

My operators said about "meter" something but I can't find it.

Thank you. Very Happy

Hi mastersinc, here's a previous thread na related sa question mo:

http://filipinoprinters.user-board.net/t70-tools-for-color-management
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:35 pm

larrysison wrote:
mastersinc wrote:
Good day Sirs,

I would just like to ask if any of you knows a gadget to check colors?

My operators said about "meter" something but I can't find it.

Thank you. Very Happy

Hi mastersinc, here's a previous thread na related sa question mo:

http://filipinoprinters.user-board.net/t70-tools-for-color-management

Sir Larry,

Thank you. Is there any institution who trains or any seminar that I can attend
for color management? thank you again.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:45 pm

presstech wrote:
Agree ako kay Rempress. The operator is talking about a densitometer, which is considered the basic measuring device of the offset pressman.

If you are planning to purchase a densitometer, you should be aware of the following:

1. You need a reflection densitometer, not a transmission densitometer. A reflection densitometer measures printed images; while a transmission densitometer is used to measure images on film.
2. You need a color reflection densitometer which can measure the the different cmyk color channels.
3. You need a densitometer that can measure both ink density and halftone screen percentages. Some old and low end densitometers will only measure density.
4. You have to be sure that the densitometer is calibrated.

It is important to have images in your print which the densitometer can read. For ink density readings, you need solid cmyk patches on the leading or trailing edge of the paper. For screen measurements, you need to have screen percentage patches for the densitometer to read. Without these patches to read, the densitometer is useless.

Hope this helps. sunny

thank you sir.
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:47 pm

rempress wrote:
Maybe they are talking about densitometer.

Thank you sir!
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:25 pm

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Sir Larry,

Thank you. Is there any institution who trains or any seminar that I can attend
for color management? thank you again.

If you like you can wait for my colleague, Mr. Alex Dulay. Pauwi siya ng Pinas this summer. He can visit your place and do PDF/X training, color managment, CtF or CtP optimization and press optimization to PSO-ISO 12647-2. After the audit and training may kasamang detailed audit report yun. Please try to contact him thru

agdulay2005@gmail.com
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 5:59 am

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If you like you can wait for my colleague, Mr. Alex Dulay. Pauwi siya ng Pinas this summer. He can visit your place and do PDF/X training, color managment, CtF or CtP optimization and press optimization to PSO-ISO 12647-2. After the audit and training may kasamang detailed audit report yun.

Thanks, Larry.

@mastersinc

Yes, I can help you. Just email me.

Alex

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If there is someone who are willing to sponsor/organize, I am willing to conduct a 1-day seminar about PDF/X on May, 2011 Smile
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:09 pm

Sir Alex,

Nagco-conduct din ba kayo ng training/seminar dito sa KSA particularly sa Jeddah?
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PostSubject: Re: HELP: What is the Gadget to Check COLORS?   Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:26 pm

yes. he does training on pdf/x, color management, proofing & printing to ISO 12647 standards. mabagsik yan! you can contact him offline.
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