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PostSubject: LF> Digital Printer (Short Runs and Digital Proofing)   Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:47 pm

Hi,

Can you suggest good digital printer for digital proofing for offset jobs?

Are the price really as expensive as a 2nd hand 2 color offset machine? (2.5m up)?

Would a digital printer less than 100k handle digital proofing?

Thank you. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: LF> Digital Printer (Short Runs and Digital Proofing)   Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:25 pm

for inquiries on large format printer, please contact me through my number 09322428712. thank you.
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PostSubject: Subject: EPSON LF PRINTERS - COLOR MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND D   Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:01 pm

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PostSubject: Re: LF> Digital Printer (Short Runs and Digital Proofing)   Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:03 pm

rgeesantos wrote:
Hi,

Can you suggest good digital printer for digital proofing for offset jobs?

Are the price really as expensive as a 2nd hand 2 color offset machine? (2.5m up)?

Would a digital printer less than 100k handle digital proofing?

Thank you. Smile


Digital Printer or Digital Press? A digital press sometimes mistakenly called a digital printer or vice versa.
A digital press is more versatile in terms of paper selection and compatibility. You can use offset paper like c2s. Yes a digital printer ( I call it office equipment) can print on C2S but on a limited number of prints.

Aside from paper, the color gamut of the digital press is wider than an office equipment. Office equipment can only give you office colors.

Depending on your needs or volume of your jobs, you need to know the Maximum recommende volume per month why.
Some digital press can print 70 A4 per minute but the max volume per month could only be 300,000. If your job is more than 400,000 per month. the unit will soon be damage because it is more than the required max. the recommended volume is distributed in days per month. meaning do not run the 300k in 1 day and rest for 29 days.

Be very careful in buying, check the service reputation and technical knowhow.

As for proofing, IMPO i do not recommend a toner base for proofing,
1. it has a heat fusing roller which not one in the industry can really control the heat.
2. Paper is another concern, humidity is the big problem in toner base.
3. Consistency is a big question also.

There are certain brands and models that are really good for productions but not for proofing
But still, depending on your market, it can be a proofer too.
Check your workflow and color management system.
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PostSubject: Re: LF> Digital Printer (Short Runs and Digital Proofing)   Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:08 pm

billy wrote:
rgeesantos wrote:
Hi,

Can you suggest good digital printer for digital proofing for offset jobs?

Are the price really as expensive as a 2nd hand 2 color offset machine? (2.5m up)?

Would a digital printer less than 100k handle digital proofing?

Thank you. Smile


Digital Printer or Digital Press? A digital press sometimes mistakenly called a digital printer or vice versa.
A digital press is more versatile in terms of paper selection and compatibility. You can use offset paper like c2s. Yes a digital printer ( I call it office equipment) can print on C2S but on a limited number of prints.

Aside from paper, the color gamut of the digital press is wider than an office equipment. Office equipment can only give you office colors.

Depending on your needs or volume of your jobs, you need to know the Maximum recommende volume per month why.
Some digital press can print 70 A4 per minute but the max volume per month could only be 300,000. If your job is more than 400,000 per month. the unit will soon be damage because it is more than the required max. the recommended volume is distributed in days per month. meaning do not run the 300k in 1 day and rest for 29 days.

Be very careful in buying, check the service reputation and technical knowhow.

As for proofing, IMPO i do not recommend a toner base for proofing,
1. it has a heat fusing roller which not one in the industry can really control the heat.
2. Paper is another concern, humidity is the big problem in toner base.
3. Consistency is a big question also.

There are certain brands and models that are really good for productions but not for proofing
But still, depending on your market, it can be a proofer too.
Check your workflow and color management system.

Very nice and detailed view.... I am curious about your term..... OFFICE COLORS, can you please explain more about this sir?
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PostSubject: Re: LF> Digital Printer (Short Runs and Digital Proofing)   Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:03 pm

@ doctor blade
I got the Term "office color" from the product specialist when i was working with a japanese company selling a copier.
The term "office color" accdg to the product specialist, dont mind about the color gamut, as long as when you print, it would come out with color is enough. Dont care if the face looks orange or redish something.

To add more. some company selling copier may oversell by saying that office equipement is adigital press. Check thier website, thier product is segmentized, look for thier product on production graphic arts or professional graphics or professional press.

Office equipement may look like the press equipment bec they also have hadrware RIP at the back of the copier.
When buying such printer, bring your own sample paper which you intend to use for that printer.

The price of office equipment is ranging from 300K to 800K ( depending on the speed and MRV or monthly reccomended volume) plus additional hardware rip amounting to 300k or more

A digital press can range from 900k ( no finishing) to 3M. entry level, Mid level may range 3M to 7M, Top of the line may start from 8M.

HAPPY PRINTING!
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PostSubject: Re: LF> Digital Printer (Short Runs and Digital Proofing)   Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:04 pm

This is a valuable information.. Thank you for Sharing...

Nowadays,

Toner based printing driven by a high cost color controller is more even seen anywhere in the Metro.
These users are not just a Copy Center (who often called XEROX center) they also have an on demand post press equipment to cater their client who needs a color intensive on demand print.
Digital Photography Studio who owns expensive DSLR's are also used these kind of equipment right now for their Photobook and invitation.




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